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	<title>Comments on: Lively.com Googles Virtual World ?</title>
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		<title>By: Nana</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240205</link>
		<dc:creator>Nana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is simply not ready for &quot;prime time.&quot; I am amazed that Google &quot;outed&quot; it so prematurely, unless it has something to do with finances. It seems to be an animated version of AOL hell. Those of us who were praying for an answer to Second Life (TM (C) and any other symbol I might be missing, lest I go to jail) can now get up off our knees I guess. Second Life (TM (c) ad nauseum) has excellent movement, interface, graphics, you name it - their only problem is the unspeakable and unattainable (unless you&#039;re filthy rich already) tier fees that drive people out of business. I am still hoping that in the future, Lively will allow for creation and purchase of avatars, fashions, items, etc. From what I&#039;ve seen so far, however, it appears to appeal to the VERY young crowd who prefer to outshout each other with obscenities rather than design a fluid virtual world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simply not ready for &#8220;prime time.&#8221; I am amazed that Google &#8220;outed&#8221; it so prematurely, unless it has something to do with finances. It seems to be an animated version of AOL hell. Those of us who were praying for an answer to Second Life (TM (C) and any other symbol I might be missing, lest I go to jail) can now get up off our knees I guess. Second Life (TM (c) ad nauseum) has excellent movement, interface, graphics, you name it &#8211; their only problem is the unspeakable and unattainable (unless you&#8217;re filthy rich already) tier fees that drive people out of business. I am still hoping that in the future, Lively will allow for creation and purchase of avatars, fashions, items, etc. From what I&#8217;ve seen so far, however, it appears to appeal to the VERY young crowd who prefer to outshout each other with obscenities rather than design a fluid virtual world.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Lyes</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240204</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Lyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to agree with the opinions voiced here - this is what we were seeing from Adobe Atmosphere a few years ago ... and doesn&#039;t seem to have any of the polish or insight that I usually expect from Google. Incidentally, it only works on my home broadband, no joy on any of the corporate networks I use. Is this indicative of it&#039;s intended market? 

My only hopes are that since this is the Beta, we will see a number of extensions to the functionality that we have here, a better interface etc. A Linux and Mac version of the client, more control, building, commerce apis ... I&#039;m sure you&#039;re all thinking about the same

One of the key things that struck me though, was that given the efforts that Linden Labs have been going through to ensure openness and interoperability are possible, it would be nice to see a future release of Lively that allows me to enter with my SL avatar... I guess however that the odds on this are rather low and I suppose I am more likely to see a browser plugin version of the SL client long before Google and Linden sort out interoperability issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to agree with the opinions voiced here &#8211; this is what we were seeing from Adobe Atmosphere a few years ago &#8230; and doesn&#8217;t seem to have any of the polish or insight that I usually expect from Google. Incidentally, it only works on my home broadband, no joy on any of the corporate networks I use. Is this indicative of it&#8217;s intended market? </p>
<p>My only hopes are that since this is the Beta, we will see a number of extensions to the functionality that we have here, a better interface etc. A Linux and Mac version of the client, more control, building, commerce apis &#8230; I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re all thinking about the same</p>
<p>One of the key things that struck me though, was that given the efforts that Linden Labs have been going through to ensure openness and interoperability are possible, it would be nice to see a future release of Lively that allows me to enter with my SL avatar&#8230; I guess however that the odds on this are rather low and I suppose I am more likely to see a browser plugin version of the SL client long before Google and Linden sort out interoperability issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Randall</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240189</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some more of my thoughts on the subject, &lt;a href=&#039;http://rceuniverse.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7032&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;is lively REALLY a Virtual World&lt;/a&gt;?

I would posit it all here but it is a pretty long discussion.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some more of my thoughts on the subject, <a href='http://rceuniverse.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7032' rel="nofollow">is lively REALLY a Virtual World</a>?</p>
<p>I would posit it all here but it is a pretty long discussion.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: robsmart</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240188</link>
		<dc:creator>robsmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is disappointing, I think we were all expecting them to do some clever tie in with google Earth or at least utilize the vast amounts of data they have access to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is disappointing, I think we were all expecting them to do some clever tie in with google Earth or at least utilize the vast amounts of data they have access to.</p>
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		<title>By: Lively</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240187</link>
		<dc:creator>Lively</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://elifgulbayrak.blogcu.com/19802721/&quot; title=&quot;lively&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Lively&lt;/a&gt; download kullanım usage karakter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://elifgulbayrak.blogcu.com/19802721/" title="lively" rel="nofollow">Google Lively</a> download kullanım usage karakter</p>
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		<title>By: epredator</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240186</link>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erm..... That&#039;s not really very good is it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erm&#8230;.. That&#8217;s not really very good is it.</p>
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		<title>By: Veeyawn</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240181</link>
		<dc:creator>Veeyawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only hope they are planning bigger things.  As mentioned, you can&#039;t call it a virtual world yet.  It&#039;s truly a 3D chat room as released.  Hopefully someday we can create stuff in Lively...oh...and it will run on Linux.

Vee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only hope they are planning bigger things.  As mentioned, you can&#8217;t call it a virtual world yet.  It&#8217;s truly a 3D chat room as released.  Hopefully someday we can create stuff in Lively&#8230;oh&#8230;and it will run on Linux.</p>
<p>Vee</p>
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		<title>By: Aleister Kronos</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240180</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleister Kronos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least you can run this beastie. It is simply not running properly on my machine and I can find no assistance in Lively&#039;s rudimentary help systems to fix the issues. I&#039;ve tried re-installing, checking that scripting permissions are OK and even re-installing Flash --- all to no avail. So I can&#039;t create an avatar, hold a conversation or even keep the configuration of an island I&#039;ve created (well 3 actually).

I can do almost nothing with this pile of bobbins. So it&#039;s back into SL for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you can run this beastie. It is simply not running properly on my machine and I can find no assistance in Lively&#8217;s rudimentary help systems to fix the issues. I&#8217;ve tried re-installing, checking that scripting permissions are OK and even re-installing Flash &#8212; all to no avail. So I can&#8217;t create an avatar, hold a conversation or even keep the configuration of an island I&#8217;ve created (well 3 actually).</p>
<p>I can do almost nothing with this pile of bobbins. So it&#8217;s back into SL for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Randall</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/07/08/livelycom-googles-virtual-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240179</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone who covers this stuff seems to be freaking out over it, but, I just can&#039;t seem to get overly excited about it.  In fact, both my wife and I are at a loss as to what to report about it on our site.  Is this new?  Maybe for Google.  Do our members care about another kiddie looking 3d chat client?  I don&#039;t think so.  Is it really even a Virtual World?  I am not so sure...

It seems to me it is a great measuring stick as to how far we have come, or rather, how far we have digressed since the Second Life craze died down.  Expand and contract.  I believe this may be the &quot;peak&quot; of the Virtual World &quot;contracting&quot; phase...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who covers this stuff seems to be freaking out over it, but, I just can&#8217;t seem to get overly excited about it.  In fact, both my wife and I are at a loss as to what to report about it on our site.  Is this new?  Maybe for Google.  Do our members care about another kiddie looking 3d chat client?  I don&#8217;t think so.  Is it really even a Virtual World?  I am not so sure&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems to me it is a great measuring stick as to how far we have come, or rather, how far we have digressed since the Second Life craze died down.  Expand and contract.  I believe this may be the &#8220;peak&#8221; of the Virtual World &#8220;contracting&#8221; phase&#8230;</p>
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