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	<title>Comments on: Streaming Second Life to a 3g phone - Vollee</title>
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	<description>Raising The Eight Bar</description>
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		<title>By: Blog Picture</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/04/22/streaming-second-life-to-a-3g-phone-vollee/#comment-241210</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In-depth view. Like it very much. I will follow these tips provided herein to examine its specific outcome after putting into use in real cases. Thanks from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In-depth view. Like it very much. I will follow these tips provided herein to examine its specific outcome after putting into use in real cases. Thanks from me.</p>
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		<title>By: epredator</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/04/22/streaming-second-life-to-a-3g-phone-vollee/#comment-239596</link>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its video streamed to the client, but the client side interactions are sent back to the intermediate client. Remote rendering is an option now. In a way thats how interactive tv works already. You tv does not really render anything but you have a backchannel to send requests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its video streamed to the client, but the client side interactions are sent back to the intermediate client. Remote rendering is an option now. In a way thats how interactive tv works already. You tv does not really render anything but you have a backchannel to send requests.</p>
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		<title>By: christen</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/04/22/streaming-second-life-to-a-3g-phone-vollee/#comment-239595</link>
		<dc:creator>christen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm trying to get my head around how this was accomplished. Was it literally video that was streamed to the phone, or something more akin to using a VNC server/client?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to get my head around how this was accomplished. Was it literally video that was streamed to the phone, or something more akin to using a VNC server/client?</p>
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		<title>By: epredator</title>
		<link>http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/04/22/streaming-second-life-to-a-3g-phone-vollee/#comment-239530</link>
		<dc:creator>epredator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure to what level the overlay can or will work. I can imagine that it is possible to control the mouse directly on a headless client of this nature. Its early days, but as a design pattern it makes sense.
In fact we trialled this approach at Wimbledon in a 5 minute POC as we were streaming video of SL. 
I watched it using my phone but used a different back channel. In this case a person on the other end controlling the SL responding to directions :-). Its a slightly people intensive approach but asking someone to direct around allows the full interface at the other end to be exploited, whilst delivering to someone who is on a restricted platform via video. Its a bit wetware grid really, but I am sure it will evolve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure to what level the overlay can or will work. I can imagine that it is possible to control the mouse directly on a headless client of this nature. Its early days, but as a design pattern it makes sense.<br />
In fact we trialled this approach at Wimbledon in a 5 minute POC as we were streaming video of SL.<br />
I watched it using my phone but used a different back channel. In this case a person on the other end controlling the SL responding to directions :-). Its a slightly people intensive approach but asking someone to direct around allows the full interface at the other end to be exploited, whilst delivering to someone who is on a restricted platform via video. Its a bit wetware grid really, but I am sure it will evolve.</p>
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		<title>By: David M. Chess</title>
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		<dc:creator>David M. Chess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting!  The one important class of interaction that they didn't show is clicking / rightclicking on stuff.  I assume their current implementation doesn't support it; is it an architectural limitation, or did they just not get to it yet?  Hard to imagine actually using SL without the ability to look at people's profiles, buy things, touch active objects, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting!  The one important class of interaction that they didn&#8217;t show is clicking / rightclicking on stuff.  I assume their current implementation doesn&#8217;t support it; is it an architectural limitation, or did they just not get to it yet?  Hard to imagine actually using SL without the ability to look at people&#8217;s profiles, buy things, touch active objects, etc&#8230;</p>
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